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  • #16
    Thanks, John.

    I like your project, and most of my customers are over 50. I know that because I do my own research on samples of them to get a better idea of what type of customer is buying my products.

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    I don't know if anyone here saw the uproar that occurred when Ancestry.com announced they were discontinuing their desktop software and moving everything to an online app. A lot of those customers were enraged by it...it was a massive online protest.

    The whole idea that was floating around that "desktop software is dead" was just pure nonsense - a lie spun up and spread around by SaaS providers and influencers.

    What I'm doing now with sharing my sales news sounds a bit like I'm bragging, but what I'm trying to do is just stir up some ESB owners to get motivated to create something and start marketing it. The demand for what we can create with ESB exists, and even with little promotion you can make sales.

    I've done no ad promotion at all. I've simply created my program with ESB, contacted some people who sell plr products and who have a list of subscribers, and asked them if they would like to promote my software to them for a commission.

    Nothing salesy. I don't even have a demo video on the sales page.

    For the membership backend I''m using InstaMember, and I use Thrive Content Builder to create my sales pages.

    If anyone here wants to pick my brain a little, I'll be glad to share what I know.

    This has been a nice little run with PLR Manager so far. I wanted to get something out there so I could gauge buyer reaction and get some feedback, and the results have been very positive - people really like this software created with ESB.

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    • #17
      Johnm - don't mean to nitpick (well, maybe I do) but you've made a glaring grammatical error - It would be YOU'RE never too old, not YOUR never too old. Just an oversight I'm sure...I'm a proofreader at heart and would offer my services to anyone who would need/want it.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by rjj418 View Post
        Johnm - don't mean to nitpick (well, maybe I do) but you've made a glaring grammatical error - It would be YOU'RE never too old, not YOUR never too old. Just an oversight I'm sure...I'm a proofreader at heart and would offer my services to anyone who would need/want it.
        How's retirement Rich?


        Thomas

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        • #19
          Thomas, so far so good - not getting much done product creation wise - settling mom's estate (she passed away in Oct at age 92) has taken bulk of my time but the end is in sight. The end of settling, not of me! LOL!

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          • #20
            Originally posted by rjj418 View Post
            Thomas, so far so good - not getting much done product creation wise - settling mom's estate (she passed away in Oct at age 92) has taken bulk of my time but the end is in sight. The end of settling, not of me! LOL!
            Sorry to hear about your mom. 94 is a pretty good run. I don't recall any of my family making it that far.

            I'm sure you'll be back on the product creation gravy train in no time. Perfect timing with ESB finally getting close to a release.


            Thomas

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Mel Bel View Post
              The whole idea that was floating around that "desktop software is dead" was just pure nonsense - a lie spun up and spread around by SaaS providers and influencers.
              I get a chuckle out of hearing stuff like "desktop software is dead". I'm happy to hear it. That means more people will be building web apps and less will be creating desktop apps.

              People will buy anything that solves their problem. Most won't care if it is a desktop program.

              I remember having a conversation with someone on the Warriorforum. He said he would only buy SaaS programs so he can access it from everywhere.

              I asked him how many devices did he use.

              He said only one.

              I asked him where he works from.

              He said home.

              You wouldn't believe the good money programmers are making in languages that are suppose to be dead.

              Focus on solutions and the money will follow.



              Thomas

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              • #22
                Originally posted by TigerSoftware View Post

                Focus on solutions and the money will follow.
                For sure!

                I made 32 sales today on JVZoo - I'm at 150 sales total so far (Warrior+ and JVZoo combined), and I'll keep pushing it until I've exhausted the affiliate support.

                Then I'll change it up just a bit and put it on ClickBank with my proof of earnings and EPC, etc., create a decent affiliate center for it, and see what I can do there.

                I haven't done much on ClickBank before, but I made a few connections with some people who only promote CB products, so I'm going to give it a go soon.

                Not many plr products on CB. Less competition for "plr" searches.

                Mel

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                • #23
                  Nice job Mel! I love it.

                  I also wanted to remind everyone that our desktop programs will be interacting with web based services in the near future. I already laid the ground work in ESB and am using it in Smartflo.

                  That and multi user support using website hosting as the central database. This will be a lot of work but why stop now? haha



                  Thomas

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by TigerSoftware View Post
                    Nice job Mel! I love it.

                    I also wanted to remind everyone that our desktop programs will be interacting with web based services in the near future. I already laid the ground work in ESB and am using it in Smartflo.

                    That and multi user support using website hosting as the central database. This will be a lot of work but why stop now? haha



                    Thomas
                    Yeah, why stop? Lol. ESB is GREAT! I'm having a wonderful time selling the software created with it, and more is on the way.

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                    • #25
                      Haha...I had my first refund today, and it was a guy who bought it over a week ago, then he went away on a trip and came back and forgot he purchased it and bought it again. Lol.

                      I thought he liked it so much he just bought it twice or for someone else.

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                      • #26
                        Any updates Mel on how your sales are going?
                        Have you done any Facebook advertising ?
                        Have most of your sales come from affiliates and other peoples
                        lists? How about from Jvzoo & your webpage from organic traffic.
                        Just curious . I think if there's JV's and others who have lists we'll do well
                        but i wonder how a product like PLR would go just from traffic from Google,
                        Youtube and other social media.
                        Thanks,
                        Robbie

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                        • #27
                          For some reason, I don't always see updates on posts. I missed your comment completely, Robbie.

                          Well, I think I answered it in another thread about PLR Manager Pro, but now I'm selling Arbitrage Viper - made with TSB and brandable.

                          So far Arbitrage Viper now has over 100 sales and actually made the Top Ten Sellers list today, but I just barely got in there at number 10. Lol.

                          The sale ends tonight at midnight and then I'll list it on JVZoo and see about getting some sales over there. But it won't be like a launch, just a listing and I'll try to get some new affiliates to promote it.

                          Mel

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by schmutly View Post
                            Any updates Mel on how your sales are going?
                            Have you done any Facebook advertising ?
                            Have most of your sales come from affiliates and other peoples
                            lists? How about from Jvzoo & your webpage from organic traffic.
                            Just curious . I think if there's JV's and others who have lists we'll do well
                            but i wonder how a product like PLR would go just from traffic from Google,
                            Youtube and other social media.
                            Thanks,
                            Robbie
                            Just to answer some of these questions in my roundabout way...

                            The purpose of these small launches where you're trying to get over 100 sales but you're not really expecting a massive amount of sales, is two:

                            1. Get as many new paying customers as possible.

                            2. Make as much money for your affiliates as possible

                            My launches - and when I say "My" "Me or "I", it includes my sister - don't earn much money from selling the products themselves during a launch.

                            The money is made after the launch from email marketing to the buyers, and from some direct sales of other products you have.

                            Basically, you are giving big commissions to get affiliates and make them as much money as possible during your launches...

                            ...and then they in return are giving you big commissions to make yourself as much money as possible during their launches.

                            That's how it works in this small-time launch "network" of sellers and affiliates.

                            It's reciprocal or it's nothing.

                            The exception is the "pure" affiliates who never do launches at all. Theirs is usually the worst converting traffic, but it still amounts to some sales if they are decent affiliates.

                            But generally, you want to establish your solid relationships with other product creators who have "buyer lists", because buyers are much higher converting, much less likely to refund, and some of them are what we call "hyperactive" buyers - they buy a lot of stuff through your affiliate link.

                            You can email the crap out of them and they'll eat it up. Those buyers are your meat and potatoes - the rest are crackers and cheese.

                            You have to identify - and even engage in conversation through email if you can - these hyperactive buyers, and figure out what they want to buy and promote those things to them.

                            If you don't cater to your hyperactive buyers, you won't make much money with your promotions.

                            Doesn't matter if some of the others unsubscribe. They don't buy much, if anything, anyway, and they don't help you pay your bills.

                            Just make sure to separate those buyers and give them an "out" so they can unsubscribe and still get software update notifications through your server system email - and I use InstaMember for that.

                            About organic traffic, I don't care about it one way or the other, but that's only because I'm focused on the whole affiliate recruitment model for traffic.

                            Some of your affiliates will end up ranking for keywords related to the name of your product, and some others will rank for keywords related to what your product is about, and they'll drive some traffic, but it isn't high converting....it's slow sales from those sources...YouTube, Blogs...mostly slow sales coming in, unless it's a popular channel or blog of course.

                            You can try to rank for keywords yourself, but that's not my specialty, so I can't say what your outcome will be or how long it will take to compete against others on YouTube or Google for top ranking position.

                            My whole focus is affiliate recruitment and buyer list building. I don't care about freebie-seekers either. That's why pure affiliate's traffic doesn't convert as high, because a lot of those guys build their traffic from giveaways and traffic exchanges and solo ads. [But like I mentioned, some of those guys who segment that traffic over time end up with some good quality traffic, but not all of them].

                            Anyhow, that's it.

                            When I step away from this type of thing, it won't be completely, but I'll be doing things similar to how Thrive Themes and FlyPlugins (WP Courseware creators) do things. That's a higher level of marketing.

                            (And the MMO sellers of course do outstanding in this type of thing I'm in now - they do much, much better than people like me - but I don't want to sell that crap)

                            Mel

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                            • #29
                              A complete and thorough review Mel, thanks as always...thats great and DOUBLE well done lol.
                              And i am sure it will help others with your detailed process you gave here as well.
                              Me...not the microscopic bit interested in the MMO (monkeys, morons and orangatangs) niche.
                              Its just a ferel joke now. 5 years ago? Was possible to make a good income if you release rehash
                              crap to the gullible month in month out.
                              Im not like that, being on the recieving end of rubbish that the excuse was "you dont put it into action"
                              Really? Your right..i don't want to rip off people and make them feel BAD after a purchase.
                              Some 'gurus' had the most ridiculous funnels known to man with 15 OTOs add ifinitum and got
                              way more expensive as you went through it. I could go on but i wont haha

                              I think the way ESB is going with its automation and eventually api will allow to plug into some amazing
                              online data and pull that into our software..i got a lot of ideas actually, and none of them are in the IM
                              niche.
                              Funny that im/mmo are the only business types that have insane funnels.
                              Yes Amazon,ebay...even your burger king (mac donalds etc) have a funnel..do you wanna upsize that?
                              More fries? YOu tried our new icy drink bla bla?? Not got a problem with ANY of those funnels because they
                              are ususally a few extra bucks. This idiotic (sorry meant to say IDIOTIC) jump from $17 to $47 or $67 for
                              NOT much more of a bonus is why i guess people struggle to make money onlline when theyre too busy
                              feeding the pockets of these greedy ppl.
                              NO....i dont mean your type of product. Software is different and an upgrade to a pro with "lots "
                              more functionality or features is not a problem (or even a monthly access for updates/aPI access & live data) but
                              i think this year is it...2017 will be the end of rehashed "how to make money" stuff.
                              Why? The world has changed almost completly in the last year...were moving into , sadly, a globalization market
                              where i think only the automation type softwares and cloud stuff WILL survive...

                              Thanks again...your advantaged by having a few contacts in the JV & Affiliate arena
                              from my understanding if your not doing IM or MMO its hard to get JVs and AFF to "push" your products.
                              Hence...i think i will be using FaceCrap Marketing for a first test.

                              Again, thanks for your full run down. Its always great to see successful people and especially yourself and Joan
                              as you both deserve to do well and it will only get much better with ESB from here on.
                              You have expert? I dont know :/ But i will make a few scripts/videos available here once we get a few small bugs
                              sorted and then you'll be able to add some automation in some of your already Excellent products
                              Great to see ESB products making a come back..with a vengence haha
                              Take care,
                              Robbie

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by schmutly View Post
                                Thanks again...your advantaged by having a few contacts in the JV & Affiliate arena
                                from my understanding if your not doing IM or MMO its hard to get JVs and AFF to "push" your products.
                                Hence...i think i will be using FaceCrap Marketing for a first test.

                                Robbie
                                Don't limit yourself with that belief, Robbie.

                                I started out selling a Real Estate Investing software program. I contacted people who ran Real Estate Investment Clubs and got a few to sign up as affiliates. We're talking a thousand plus per license sold. That was how I made my first sales online.

                                I also contacted a lot of "gurus" who were hitting the seminar circuit. I had a couple interested in private branding my program. I think I mentioned this but had talked with Kelly Felix when he was doing the Rich Jerk. He was coming out with a real estate course and wanted to use my program as an upsell.



                                Thomas

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